Dagger Notes

(Miika, Ville, Nikodemus, Topi)

/ indicates change of actor (counter or response)

p.N:M indicates page N, image M

Sequences start with mandritto / parry on the inside. Note that the inside parry can be done either as a grab-like action or a strike-like action. The grab-like has two variants: elbow down and palm forwards, or elbow up and palm sideways.

Note: I think we are still missing a few techniques that can be initiated with the above attack / parry, see Novati p. 137:1-2 and 131:3-4, also we are definitely missing the action of p. 131:5-6. We should incorporate them -- if they turn out to be applicable, I think. It would make sense if we are trying do follow thru all the permutations. We should get cracking on the other parries on mandritto as well, and then move on to fendente and roverso. Also, it might make sense to start listing separate principles that create the permutations: see my preliminary attempts at end.

Counters in Time

  1. Mandritto / parry inside / evasion / elbow lock / chiavo sottano. Note: the elbow lock becomes especially easy if the attacker is late with the evasion (after initial contact). (Novati p. 129:5 - 130:2.)
  2. Mandritto / parry inside / intersept, twist and stab. Note: alternatively after twist go for elbow lock and break. (Novati p.133:2 - 3, alternate not found in Novati.)
  3. Mandritto / parry inside / stab parrying hand. (Novati p.133:1.)
  4. Mandritto / parry inside / 2-handed attack on new line. (Not in Novati as a response to parry, but as response to followup actions after parry: Novati p. 130:6.)
  5. Mandritto / parry inside / pull the dagger vigorously down, continue with attack of choise. (Does not appear in Novati)
  6. Mandritto / parry inside / push elbow of incoming arm, continue with attack of choise. (Elbow push appears in Novati as a response to two-handed parries. p. 131:2, 132:4)
  7. Mandritto / parry inside / grab the blade and stab incoming arm. (Novati p. 130:4)
  8. Mandritto / parry inside / lock wrist with the blade, pull back / uses free hand to change the line. Note: in the last counter the trapped hand may already be destroyed, necessitating a body-push. (Novati p. 133:4-5)
  9. Mandritto / parry inside / lock wrist with the blade, push forward and across (cut the line) to a basic elbow lock. (Does not appear in Novati)

Down by the Elbow

  1. Mandritto / parry inside, hit larynx (with hand or elbow on it's way to the attacker's elbow), takedown by elbow (arm over arm). (Appears in Novati without the attack on Larynx, with final counter of supporting the dagger with other hand and stabbing the incoming arm: p. 130:5-6.)
  2. Mandritto / parry inside, takedown by elbow (arm under arm) / 2-handed attack on a new line. (Novati p. 132:5-6.)
  3. Mandritto / parry inside, dislocate elbow (palm up) / 2-handed attack on a new line. (Does not appear in Novati.)
  4. Mandritto / parry inside, dislocate elbow (palm down) / 2-handed attack on a new line. (In Novati the final counter is supporting the dagger by blade with other hand and stabbing the incoming arm: p. 130: 3-4.)

Hiia!

  1. Mandritto / parry inside, grab forward leg to throw / hit larynx with a forward step. (Novati p. 132:1-2.)
  2. Mandritto / parry inside, advance, hit throat and takedown (Takedown does not appear in this context in Novati, but see 134:3-4.)
  3. Mandritto / parry upwards by the elbow, pull from hip to throw. Note: the aim is to manipulate the opponent's upper body and balance in such a way, that it twists strongly, making the opponent fall. (Novati p. 136:5.) Note: This does not really belong here, since it is not initiated by the same parry, esp. since there is another throw (Novati p. 136:6), that is initiated by the elbow as well. Also, is this not more of a single-time action, as opposed to parry and continuation?

General Principles

Note: I think I have both missed a few general ones, and there are several that should propably be collapsed into single ones (or removed entirely from here on grounds of being techniques, not principles...).

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